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27 July 2006 @ 09:13 pm
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Am I a Jew? Or am I merely Jewish?

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Diplomatically brutal since 1999tuluum on July 28th, 2006 02:15 am (UTC)
what's tha diff? :)
(Anonymous) on July 28th, 2006 02:27 am (UTC)
"Jew" is a cultural reference. Being "Jewish" is an attitude. Some days one, some days the other. Go figure.
ask mevorona on July 28th, 2006 02:49 am (UTC)
Sounds like the title of a book!
Liana: chazak v'amatztezliana on July 28th, 2006 03:02 am (UTC)
Both.

Me, I'm Jewish-ish. At least until August 7.
ask mevorona on July 28th, 2006 03:25 am (UTC)
but
The absolutely literal answer, of course, is that one's a noun and one's an adjective, and that's it. No more, no less.
skzbrustskzbrust on July 28th, 2006 03:49 am (UTC)
It isn't all that tough, Fred. If you see God in the Torah, you're Jewish. If you get a quasi-sexual reaction to the mere idea of bagals with lox and cream cheese, you're a Jew.

Always glad to help.

A monstrous ramblingbibliofile on July 28th, 2006 07:38 am (UTC)
What if the yearning's for Sara Lee's frozen bagels topped with salmon-flavored cream cheese?
skzbrustskzbrust on July 28th, 2006 12:56 pm (UTC)
Shabbos goy.
Emma Bull: snirchcoffeeem on July 28th, 2006 03:47 pm (UTC)
*snort*
A monstrous ramblingbibliofile on July 29th, 2006 03:41 am (UTC)
Hey, if it gives me an excuse to visit F&S, I'd be up for that.
Gordonfishbliss on July 28th, 2006 04:26 am (UTC)
I tend to be most in agreement with the "both" comment.

I see being a Jew, being Jewish as having connection to both
religious belief and traditions, and to cultural traditions that have grown up along with the religious traditions.

Torah talks about not eating leavened bread when observing Passover, but bagels, lox, those are purely cultural artifacts.
Yummy ones, to be sure. And these aren't universal among all Jews - they're part of the Ashkenazic tradition of European Jews.

So, are we Jewish because we are born of a long line of people who practiced Judiasm? Yes. Are we Jews because we are part of their cultural communities. Yes.

Do we have to be observant of all the rules and regulations of the religion? Depends who you ask. The ultra-orthodox would claim that I'm not a Jew, becaue I don't keep Kosher, I don't rigorously observe the sabbath, and I haven't been Bar Mitzvah (yet.)

But I identify as a Jew - every one of my ancestors for the past two thousand or so years has been a Jew. They endured discrimination, pogroms, even left their home countries to be able to be Jewish. So I am proud to be a Jew. And Jewish.
Peter Hentgesjbru on July 28th, 2006 01:42 pm (UTC)
As an agnostic raised in a Christian-centered culture (though not family) I find myself at a loss to provide you with much insight, but perhaps these questions will help:

Are you Fred? Or merely Fredish?
kip_wkip_w on July 28th, 2006 03:18 pm (UTC)
Funny, he doesn't look Fredish.
Peter Hentgesjbru on July 28th, 2006 06:34 pm (UTC)
A Fred once bit my sister.
Drewandrewan on July 28th, 2006 01:59 pm (UTC)
I've had a similar question myself for a while. A couple years ago my biological mother (I'm adopted) gave me the run down on our mix heritage... the mixed bag of racial and ethnic origins of my ancestors. One of those was Jew. She could trace that back at least a few generations through her maternal line. So, what does that make me? I nice midwest Christian boy who wonders about his Jewish ancestors.

I do like bagels. Does that count?