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05 November 2004 @ 02:17 am
Da Fredcritter falls for another meme....  

Book Meme
[copied from barbary_coast]

Grab the nearest book.
Open the book to page 23.
Find the fifth sentence.
Post the text of the sentence in your journal...
...along with these instructions.

Actually, there were two books right next to each other in my backpack, so I'll quote the fifth complete* sentence from each.

Antwerp was the center of a group of Mannerist painters whose works were created for export chiefly to Spain, where there was a vogue for decorated and extravagant fantasies in the Flemish manner.


Let us separate: if you go north, I will go south; and if you go south, I will go north.

*The instructions did not specifically address this point, so I made a "ruling" before I opened the books….

Current Mood: boredbored
kimi_bee on November 27th, 2004 10:41 pm (UTC)
I know you told me, but what was a meme again?
This is Kim, you know, sits across from you at work. Anyway, I have signed up. Mine is:

His first surgery of the day was an eight-year-old boy who had been sleeping in the back seat of his father's pickup truck.

What is the point of a meme?
Fred A Levy Haskell: eyes of the Fredcritterfredcritter on November 28th, 2004 12:17 am (UTC)
Re: I know you told me, but what was a meme again?

Hey, kimi_bee! Welcome aboard! For an instant selection of some pretty darned interesting people, click on the Friends: link in my User Info (or the link I just built out of it in this paragraph…. ;>). Alternatively, you could just click on one of the people in that liste to go to their complete journal, which would probably give you a better chance to get a sense of their personality.

So. To answer your question, I checked at Dictionary.com (I believe you did that to me once too). I think the most useful definition in the context of Live Journal is:

meme   <philosophy> /meem/ [By analogy with “gene”] Richard Dawkins’s term for an idea considered as a replicator, especially with the connotation that memes parasitise people into propagating them much as viruses do.

Memes can be considered the unit of cultural evolution. Ideas can evolve in a way analogous to biological evolution. Some ideas survive better than others; ideas can mutate through, for example, misunderstandings; and two ideas can recombine to produce a new idea involving elements of each parent idea.

The term is used especially in the phrase “meme complex” denoting a group of mutually supporting memes that form an organised belief system, such as a religion. However, “meme” is often misused to mean “meme complex”.

Use of the term connotes acceptance of the idea that in humans (and presumably other tool- and language-using sophonts) cultural evolution by selection of adaptive ideas has become more important than biological evolution by selection of hereditary traits. Hackers find this idea congenial for tolerably obvious reasons.

See also memetic algorithm.

Source: The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, © 1993-2004 Denis Howe

In LiveJournal “meme” seems to have come to mean simply ”a quiz or a set of questions we pass around to each other” but, as you can see, its meaning is far richer than that and its implications go far deeper.

What is the point of a meme?
Um … point? We don't need no stinkin' point. Point, eh? Um … I guess an LJ meme is something we do to amuse ourselves. Or to have something to talk about. Or as a potential conversation starter. Kind of like a knick-knack or a button with a slogan on it. I guess. … It's probably mostly just to amuse ourselves…

See ya!

kimi_bee on November 28th, 2004 12:23 am (UTC)
Re: I know you told me, but what was a meme again?
Boy, you sure are up late. I am just sitting here at wonderful Merrill... There is nothing going on, so I just thought I'd take up some time and start a journal. It's kind of fun!

I didn't mean to be offensive by asking what the point was, I was just curious. I am aware that no point is necessary. In fact, generally speaking, I love pointless things. They are so much more fun than things with a purpose!

See you Monday!
Fred A Levy Haskell: eyes of the Fredcritterfredcritter on November 29th, 2004 05:57 pm (UTC)
Re: I know you told me, but what was a meme again?

Late? Naw, I was just staying on schedule so Monday wouldn't be the pits. Of course, it turns out (now that I'm here) that Monday's the pits anyway, but what can ya do?

I didn't mean to be offensive by asking what the point was …. Hmmmm. I see I need to work on my "tone of voice" cues—I didn't think you were being offensive, nor was I offended. In fact, I thought it a perfectly reasonable question. Hmmmm. As a very wise man wrote to a group I was in a long time ago: if it helps any, just think of me sitting here at my keyboard smiling, always smiling&hellip.