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02 December 2008 @ 06:06 am
It's all how you look at it  

At work yesterday, one of my fellow employees noticed the Grateful Dead T-shirt I was wearing (not the first one nor for the first time but, you know, I’ve only been working first shift for a little over a year now) and said, “Oh, that’s a Grateful Dead shirt. Do you like the Grateful Dead?” I said I did, yes. She went on, “Oh, my kids like that Grateful Dead stuff. They like all that rock stuff, you know, rock music. Me, I’m too old for that. I like the 60’s stuff—you know, 1960’s—that’s when I … you know, that’s what I listen to … Why, I’m going to turn 60 next year—can you imagine that?” I smiled my acknowledgement and she wandered off. Since I don’t always remember to think about what I’m saying to assess the social context first, I was very proud of myself for not responding with, “Isn’t that interesting? I too will be turning 60 next year.”

Marissa Lingenmrissa on December 2nd, 2008 12:59 pm (UTC)
Yep, this is the difference between old farts who are going to turn 60 next year and young whippersnappers who are also going to turn 60 next year.

It's the flip side of what matociquala and I were talking about yesterday, that when we were 14 and 7 we were not "about the same age," and now that we're 37 and 30 we really are "about the same age." There's room for things to stretch and bend....
maruad on December 2nd, 2008 01:29 pm (UTC)
The social context thing has always been difficult for myself as well. My well meant but poorly considered comments have deposited me in the deep end on many an occaison.

As for turning sixty, I do think it is how you approach it.
John and, possibly, Annjdtacv on December 2nd, 2008 01:37 pm (UTC)
Congrats! My friends from the other side tell me you have the far better deal, so enjoy!!!

Carol Kennedycakmpls on December 2nd, 2008 01:53 pm (UTC)
Er...when does this person think the Dead got started?

I'm 61 and I listen to some of my kids' (18-25) music, and R (18) likes not only some music from "my" era but some from her grandmother's as well--big band, swing.

beamjockeybeamjockey on December 2nd, 2008 01:56 pm (UTC)
Each of us lived in a different Sixties.
Mizz Laura Jeanmizzlaurajean on December 2nd, 2008 02:17 pm (UTC)
Ya but you'd like to think she was a ware the other stuff co-existed.
Mizz Laura Jeanmizzlaurajean on December 2nd, 2008 02:16 pm (UTC)
FOFL LOL!!!!!!! ohmyghod so funny. I can't believe you will be 60! We really out to have a big cake.

You have such restraint I'm not sure I could have kept my mouth closed.

What the hell was this lady listening to in the 60's?????
(Anonymous) on December 2nd, 2008 02:45 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I get that, too. I don't know where it comes from. I work in a pretty conservative environment, thay are always amazed that I am about to turn 60. I started playing guitar with a few guys I met on Craigslist. They're all "middle-aged", successful businessmen. We were talking after practice last night and one said "Boy, we're old!", then asked how old we all were. They were all in their early fifties, they were shocked when I said I was 59.

At least they knew the difference between being 60 and growing up in the sixties.

I suppose you should be flattered that your coworker took you for someone much younger.

As someone else already said, we all seemed to grow up in a different '60s. Rock on...
lakeboy_55 on December 2nd, 2008 02:48 pm (UTC)
I just posted a comment, but for some reason it came out as anonymous. That was not my intention, sorry.
Fred A Levy Haskell: xclip- book edge purplefredcritter on December 3rd, 2008 12:12 am (UTC)
np. I just unhid it so others will be able to see it.
alces2alces2 on December 2nd, 2008 04:04 pm (UTC)
I wonder what 1960s music she was talking about. I do recall rock and roll being around in the 1960s. I'll only be turning 57 next year.
et in Arcadia egoboo: whole earth moonapostle_of_eris on December 2nd, 2008 04:48 pm (UTC)
OK, yeah, someone's confused here, and in this case, I don't think it's me, at least not me first and foremost.
I still don't understand how kids can be fans of a band they've never heard . . . (For wide values of "kid"; anyone less than a third my age I'm allowed to call "kid".)
Her kids like rock, but she likes "60's" stuff. Not the Grateful Dead.
I'm about a year ahead of you — in a couple of weeks I'll be 61 &mdash but it's really weird watching your own experience getting reified into officially iconic history. When people talk about the Dead and I talk about what phenomenal techies they were, it's like I'm not talking about the consensus planet.
((And speaking of techies, my man Stewart Brand was keeping all the gear running for the Greatest Dog and Pony Show in history, 40 years ago, when Douglas Engelbart introduced the world to the "mouse".))
madtrukmadtruk on December 2nd, 2008 04:51 pm (UTC)
I'd have said it, but I'm kind of a jerk. You, you're nicer. And thankfully a young soul.
gomeza on December 2nd, 2008 04:59 pm (UTC)
Hahaha! And you know, there's no relationship between her "60's music" and any of that "rock stuff" from the 60's that you might like.

Many people I know tell me that their taste in music gets narrower as they get older. Maybe my tastes will go that way too, some day, but up to now, my tastes seem to have grown _broader_ as I get older. I listen to far more genres now than I did ten years ago, and I could have said the same thing then, and ten years before that...

PS: 59? No shit? You're pretty well preserved for 59. But then, from the viewpoint of 46, ages in the 50's and 60's don't seem all that old to me any more. I can't quite figure out why I have no peers/friends in my own age group (let's say arbitrarily, 40 to 50). Nearly all my friends are over 50 or well under 35. Not that it matters.

I remember getting all wrapped around the axle about turning 40. Six years later I realize I don't feel particularly different and it doesn't matter much. Oh sure, we may have a few more inexplicable (or even explicable) aches and pains than we did when we were half our current ages, but aside from that... life goes on. At least, until it doesn't any more, and the best we can hope for after that is to live on in the hearts and memories of the people whose lives we have affected.
skzbrust: Players.  It's Showtime!skzbrust on December 2nd, 2008 05:52 pm (UTC)
Hee hee. That's pretty funny. 60's stuff. Uh huh.
splashiatorsplashiator on December 2nd, 2008 05:56 pm (UTC)
The Grateful Dead! Wow! They played once at Lufton Runner during their first Tellurian concert series, but of course I was too young to go. But they castripped the show, and I heard it not long ago. Amazing stuff! Are they still playing?
juliainkuwait on December 3rd, 2008 12:09 am (UTC)
One of the best summers my son and I had together was the one where we were Dead Heads together. Every once in awhile we dress as twins in one of our matching concert shirts. And I'll be OMG 60 in 28 days.
Mayor of "There"rmjwell on December 3rd, 2008 03:48 am (UTC)
I was doing something similar today, musing about my age relative to Obama (1 year older than me) as well as Prince and Michael Jackson (both are 4 years older than me).

I'm sure one of these days I'll feel like a grown-up... just don't know when that will be.
magscannermagscanner on December 3rd, 2008 07:22 am (UTC)
Your posting caused me to go to archive.org and look for the one GD show I saw at the Avalon -- end of March, 1967. There don't seem to be any copies extant.

So I settled for another show from '67. Still gives me the willies.