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19 November 2008 @ 08:01 pm
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Yes, yes … I know that now is the time for bipartisan hugfests and reconciliation and outreach and healing, but … well … now that it can no longer construed to be political gamesmanship, I think it would be very healing indeed if Congress would move to impeach the sons-of-bitches.

I'm just sayin', is all…

 
 
 
Matthew B. Tepper: NoDubya anti-Bush circle-slash-dubyaasimovberlioz on November 20th, 2008 03:28 am (UTC)
I don't know how serious he was, but didn't Al Franken suggest this very thing a couple of years ago, once a mostly-Democratic Congress was seated in early 2009? We would need 67 votes in the Senate for removal, however, so it seems unlikely.

I've long since gone on record as saying that I would refuse delivery of any mail sent to me using either Scott #2955 or Scott #3897. I will almost certainly add one more postage stamp to the list when the time comes.

sethb on November 20th, 2008 03:48 am (UTC)
Gee, and I was a member of the Committee for a Richard Nixon Postage Stamp.

That was a while ago.
Matthew B. Tepper: Groucho Marxasimovberlioz on November 20th, 2008 04:10 am (UTC)
As in, "Bring me the broomstick of the Wicked Witch of the West"?

Or the remark that got the guy in my icon in trouble?
Fred A Levy Haskell: xclip- googie orange-red-bluefredcritter on November 20th, 2008 12:39 pm (UTC)
Do tell?
sethb on November 20th, 2008 02:34 pm (UTC)
I was fully aware of the requirement for there to be a postage stamp featuring a(n ex-) President.
Fred A Levy Haskell: xclip- button dark blue blinkiefredcritter on November 20th, 2008 12:38 pm (UTC)
While I'm inclined to like and admire Al Franken (not to mention voting for him and seriously hoping that when the smoke settles he'll have been proven to have been elected to the Senate himself), I cannot testify as to whether he made that particular suggestion. Although as I mentioned to friend davidschroth below, I'm absolutely sure I'm not the first person to have thought of it.
kaffyr: Wonder Woman 58kaffyr on November 20th, 2008 03:33 am (UTC)
Yes. Yes indeed. Yes indeedy-do. Absolutement. Hellz yeah.
Fred A Levy Haskell: xclip- book edge purplefredcritter on November 20th, 2008 12:28 pm (UTC)
Yup. All right-thinking people agree. You agree. QED.
David W. Schrothdavidschroth on November 20th, 2008 05:35 am (UTC)
You stun me with your insight and wisdom.

As you usually do.
Fred A Levy Haskell: xclip- earthfredcritter on November 20th, 2008 12:17 pm (UTC)
Thank you, kind sir. Are you so easily stunned? I can't have been the first to have thought this. Perhaps you, yourself, have had a similar thought tippy-toe through your mind in the last coupla weeks…?
lynnparkslynnparks on November 20th, 2008 06:15 am (UTC)
Bipartisan hugfest sounds like a disease. What would you use to treat it?
Fred A Levy Haskell: xclip- red check animatedfredcritter on November 20th, 2008 12:14 pm (UTC)
Good point and interesting question. I guess that would depend on the exact nature of the disease. Hmmm. Desitin? Sulfa drugs? Lithium? Chemo?
also_hueyalso_huey on November 20th, 2008 12:15 pm (UTC)
I think it would be very healing indeed if Congress would move to impeach the sons-of-bitches.

Not only would it not be healing, but it would cause a lot of heat and light, accomplish nothing, immediately use up any bit of tendency for bipartisan hugfest and reconciliation, and prevent other, more useful shit from getting done.

And, really: economic crisis, wars, unemployment, healthcare, ...or kicking a dog that's already on life support? I'm just not seeing how anybody thinks this is a good use of political capital.

One of W's stopped-clock-is-right-twice-a-day moments was that ultimately, history will judge him, to which I say "Yeah. Good luck with that."
Fred A Levy Haskell: Fredcritter eyes onlyfredcritter on November 20th, 2008 12:24 pm (UTC)
There's truth in that. However, my thinking is that they've set a bunch of really bad precedents concerning the power and reach of the Executive Branch, and the quickest and easiest way to wind that back and reestablish some semblance of a reasonable balance of power would be to impeach 'em. It also might limit the potential for engaging in further illegal and damaging activities in the next two months—sweeping preemptive pardons are only one of the things that come to mind…

(Besides, it's more civilized than my initial idea, which was to nail 'em up on a wall and let the ravens and vultures eat 'em.)

Edited at 2008-11-20 12:34 pm (UTC)
Fighting Crime with a Giant Dandelion Since 2013pameladean on November 20th, 2008 10:23 pm (UTC)
I am all for the ravens and vultures.

Failing that, the crimes they have committed were not only against us. Bush et al. completely trashed us with the rest of the world, and we could repair that to some degree by demonstrating that we had EVEN THE SLIGHTEST IDEA they had done very wrong things.

P.
Cass W. Marshalljudith_dascoyne on November 20th, 2008 04:45 pm (UTC)
As I understand the process, impeachment is a mechanism that allows us to get out of a toxic situation, not a punishment.

That said I feel punishment is called for.