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07 November 2008 @ 10:50 am
237! . . . no . . . wait . . . 221! . . . 206!!  

Norm Coleman  1,211,542   1,211,556   1,211,565
Al Frankin   1,211,305   1,211,335   1,211,359

I can’t even begin to tell you how very, very much I hope that when the smoke clears, the final, certified, pre-recount totals are a couple of hundred votes in Mr. Frankin’s favor. ’Cause I really want to watch Slimy Norman bouncing and flopping and spinning and foaming at the mouth and proclaiming that no, he was misquoted … he didn’t really say that. Besides, even if he really did say that he didn’t actually mean it the way it sounded. Ad nausium.

Coleman Declares Victory In MN; Recount Likely:

"Yesterday the voters spoke. We prevailed," Coleman said Wednesday at a news conference. He noted Franken could opt to waive the recount.

"It's up to him whether such a step is worth the tax dollars it will take to conduct," Coleman said, telling reporters he would "step back" if he were in Franken's position.

Updated 11/10/2008 4:24:45 PM CST

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Marissa Lingenmrissa on November 7th, 2008 04:54 pm (UTC)
I keep seeing Normie saying things like this, that he would step back for the sake of the taxpayers. When did recounts become this evil horrible thing instead of, y'know, the ordinary and sensible practice of democracy? Is there any good reason why it is better for citizens to have a victor declared five seconds after the polls close instead of, oh, I don't know, how about after every vote is carefully counted? Isn't that supposed to be what we do here?

Sigh.
Fred A Levy Haskell: xclip- googie orange-red-bluefredcritter on November 7th, 2008 11:51 pm (UTC)

Yeah, he's a pip, ain't he?

When did recounts become this evil horrible thing instead of, y'know, the ordinary and sensible practice of democracy?
Hmmm. Good question. Probably 'round about the time the 2000 Presidential election was settled by the vote of the Supreme Court rather than by the vote of the people.

Something I find especially reprehensible about Slimy Norman is I believe him to be smart and aware enough to have actually considered what he's going to say before saying it. Or maybe not. I don't know. Is it better when a person says stupid and offensive things because they are stupid and offensive and don't know any better? Or when a person says stupid and offensive things even though they know better but they believe it will give them some advantage?

Marissa Lingenmrissa on November 8th, 2008 03:35 am (UTC)
I don't know, it seemed pretty ingrained to me by the 2000 election. People kept repeating that it was time to move forward and that sort of thing; I'm not sure the 2000 election could have gone the way it had if there wasn't at least some cultural support for the GIMME NOW NOW NOW theory of vote-counting.
Fred A Levy Haskell: xclip- googie orange-red-bluefredcritter on November 8th, 2008 06:32 am (UTC)
Hm. Excellent point. Hm. Okay, I'll take another stab at it. Ever since the first time something was the greatest thing since sliced bread? That would certainly indicate at least the start of a cultural slide into impatience—"I can't stand to wait until you cut it, I gotta have it now!"
sethb on November 10th, 2008 10:38 pm (UTC)
When did recounts become this evil horrible thing

Recounts are evil when the self-proclaimed good guy is ahead on the first count, of course.

Got any harder questions?
guppiecatguppiecat on November 7th, 2008 05:04 pm (UTC)
What happens if, after this recount, it's a tie?
the laughing leaping waterminnehaha on November 7th, 2008 05:06 pm (UTC)
Special election, I guess.

K.
Fred A Levy Haskell: Fredcritter eyes onlyfredcritter on November 7th, 2008 11:22 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure. I know that over the years there have been more than a few mayoral elections in small Minnesota towns which ended up in a tie and were settled by a coin toss—I can only assume that's what's specified by Minnesota's statutes. I don't, however, know if that's also what is specified for US Senate races.
Carol Kennedycakmpls on November 7th, 2008 07:13 pm (UTC)
Does he really expect anyone, even those who voted for him, to believe that if he had been behind by so few votes in the initial count, he would concede? Or his supporters would want him to? I mean, really?
Fred A Levy Haskell: xclip- pushpin purplefredcritter on November 7th, 2008 11:34 pm (UTC)
Who can tell what he really expects? After all, Slimy Norman is the embodied personification of the totally self-serving politician—he can be trusted 100% to do just exactly what he thinks is in his own best interest (along with, it is now apparent, anything he wants to do that he thinks he can get away with).
et in Arcadia egoboo: Chicago (from Adler)apostle_of_eris on November 8th, 2008 01:54 pm (UTC)
I'm on a few of the Republican mailing lists (know the enemy), and it's funny reading about the horrible liberal extremists trying to steal the election by counting the ballots.
Geri Sullivangerisullivan on November 10th, 2008 11:31 pm (UTC)
Oh, that's choice.
Jeffgalacticvoyeur on November 11th, 2008 02:33 am (UTC)
Oh, yeah. They're going on and on about what a dastardly evil DFL plot this recount is. I'm expecting a cadre of Young Republicans to be flown in from D.C. on the day the committee convenes to shout and pound on the walls and doors of the conference room and scream "stop the recount" until... they stop it.

Oh, wait, that was 8 years ago.
A monstrous ramblingbibliofile on November 11th, 2008 03:08 am (UTC)
oh good grief.