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01 April 2008 @ 09:49 pm
"On cropping" continues . . .  

As I mentioned in an earlier post, Sara Sara Sara, our friend dd_b had an interesting comment and suggestion about cropping one of the Sara photos in his reply to my post To Crop or Not To Crop . . . that got me to thinking and experimenting in Photoshop. He said:

There's a third option on the picture of Sara, which might bear examination: clone out the detail on the left (or paint over, or whatever works). Plain white wall, and plain carpet; very easy to duplicate. And then just a *little* baseboard to fake up (I'd lose the whole concept of the stairway if I did this).

That tempts me because the cropped version is coming rather too close to the mirror image being exactly across the vertical centerline; keeping the original composition keeps it closer to center and right 1/3 line.

The first two images are the ones on which he was commenting; the third is what I ultimately came up with:

First Crop   Original   Latest Crop
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Larger version of latest crop:
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Wow. That's really spooky! I just noticed that you can still see the reflection of the framed photo in the mirror, even though you can no longer see it on the wall to the left (where it, in reality, hangs) because it was cloned out along with the other distracting things that had been there. Which may or may not bend one's head depending on how strong a sense one has of the relative locations of things in the image. Maybe I should experiment with cloning it out of the mirror as well…

Mmmm. Anyway, I have to agree with DD-B and the others who thought that the first crop was too tight, and with his notion that I could expand things by "cleaning up" the wall. As you can see, however, I do not share his inclination to "lose the whole concept of the stairway"—to me the space is so obviously a landing that losing the, um, "stairness" would, IMHO, cast one hopelessly adrift in the realm of "what the heck is going on here?" And not, I think, in a good way.

Whups! It got late again. *sigh* Okay, more thoughts, photos, and stuff (not to mention more of my pending replies) as soon as I can get to it. Vootie!

Current Mood: tiredtired
Peter Hentgesjbru on April 2nd, 2008 04:53 am (UTC)
I disagree with all you all who find the first crop too tight. I think it works fine and that the extra space on the left in the new version looks odd compared to how tight the mirror frame is to the right edge of the photo.

Your first crop puts Sara and her reflection fairly evenly distanced from the center of the photo. Almost as if it is the vertical centerline of the photo that is making the reflection, not the mirror. This new crop shifts them both to the right and feels unbalanced to me.
Fred A Levy Haskell: Fredcritter eyes onlyfredcritter on April 2nd, 2008 11:11 am (UTC)

Hmmmm. As the rabbi once said, "You also are correct." Let me think upon this…

Gordonfishbliss on April 3rd, 2008 04:05 am (UTC)
Maybe if you go back to the first crop and then crop out a bit of the bottom edge.
kip_wkip_w on April 2nd, 2008 04:31 pm (UTC)
I was thinking something similar. I normally aim for balance instead of symmetry, but in the case of a mirror, the subject matter is asking for it.
retoonedretooned on April 3rd, 2008 12:23 am (UTC)
I like the process of seeing how the changes in the images affect my perception of the images.....

It may become less important for me to pick a "best".
Gordonfishbliss on April 3rd, 2008 04:03 am (UTC)
That's a magic crop - the photo and the power outlet plate are also magically disappeared.
Cass W. Marshalljudith_dascoyne on April 3rd, 2008 03:47 pm (UTC)
If we are going to get really picky
the edge if the picture and the mirror (as well as the stair step) is not square.
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