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29 January 2008 @ 09:47 pm
Another iTunes Meme  

Gakked from rmjwell

An iTunes Meme

Instructions: Open up your iTunes and fill out this survey, no matter how embarrassing the responses might be.

How many songs total: 22,561
How many hours or days of music: 67.4 days, 81.47 GB

Most recently played: “Hat Ein Jid Ein Wejbele” – Muzsikás – Szól A Kakas Már (Magyar Zsidó Népzene, Erdély) [Máramaros—The Lost Jewish Music of Transylvania]

Most played (a tie at 18 plays):
• “Galaxy Song” – Monty Python – Monty Python Sings
• “Wonderful World of Sex” – Steve Goodman – Anthology: No Big Surprise – Michael Smith

Most recently added:
• iTunes single of the week: “The March” – Astra Heights – The March - Single of the Week
• Actually added by me: “Bruremarsj frå indre Svor” – Spindel – Aminje – Dagfinn Andersen

Sort by song title

First Song:
• actual: “À Toi” – Léo Ferré – The Rough Guide to the Music of France—accordion to Occitan rap: a musical Tour de France – Léo Ferré – from the album Sur La Scène… (2003839)
• non-accented: “A-Tisket, A-Tasket” – Chick Webb And His Orchestra; Ella Fitzgerald, vocal – An Introduction to Chick Webb—His Best Recordings, 1929– 1939 – Ella Fitzgerald/Van Alexander – 63693-A. New York, May 2, 1938. Decca 1840

Last Song:
• untitled: Recorded in Arjasa, Western Kangean Island, June 5, 1941 – Music For The Gods—The Fahnestock South Sea Expedition: Indonesia – Genre: Kerejing [jew’s harp] Solo
• last one that has a title: “2001 Polka” – Martin Mull and His Fabulous Furniture – Martin Mull and His Fabulous Furniture in Your Living Room

Sort by time

Shortest Song:
• audiobook: “Bereshit – Genesis-End” – (0:02) – Tanach – Torah – Genesis – Read by Shlomo Bertonov – Audiobook
• other: “WEVD station ID” – (0:05) – Solomon Dingol (announcer) – Music From The Yiddish Radio Project – 1948
• song fragment: “Like Sonny [Alternate version] [Take 4] [False Start]” – (0:08) – John Coltrane – The Heavyweight Champion—The Complete Atlantic Recordings – Thursday, March 26, 1959. Atlantic Studios, New York City
• actual song: “Miracle Cure” – (0:13) – The Who – Live At Leeds [Deluxe Edition] – Pete Townshend – Recorded live at Leeds University, February 14, 1970

Longest Song:
• Podcast: “Journalism and the World” – (1:36:43) – Christiane Amanpour – ASSU Speakers Bureau – 2006 – Stanford – Christiane Amanpour, CNN’s Chief International correspondent, delivers the inaugural Daniel Pearl Memorial Lecture.
• actual song: “The Valley Recalls” – (1:17:12) – Shivkumar Sharma & Hariprasad Chaurasia – The Valley Recalls

Sort by album
First album: [various artists] – Abayudaya: Music from the Jewish People of Uganda
Last album: Tony Rice – 58957: The Bluegrass Guitar Collection

First song that comes up on Shuffle: “Absolutely Sweet Marie” – Bob Dylan – Blonde on Blonde – Bob Dylan

Search the following and state how many songs come up:

Death – 31
Life – 268
Love – 1025
Hate – 12
You – 2099 (“Young”)
Sex – 61 (“Sextet”)

A few additional searches I thought of:
Man – 3695
Woman – 127
Birth – 161
Infinity – 0
lovin’ – 61
loving – 19
silly – 25
stupid – 2
duck – 14

(Note that the searches suffer from the inability to restrict the search to whole words and to the song title field…)

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Current Mood: curiouscurious
Matthew B. Tepper: Egyptian god of frustrationasimovberlioz on January 30th, 2008 04:20 am (UTC)
"duck"??? See usericon.

Rather than complain about how so many iPod-related memes are driven by the concept of music defined as existing only in unit of "songs," I suppose I should try to come up with one which works independent of that concept, and regardless of genre or type of sound recording. But so far I have come up blank. (Or "Blanc," which see usericon again.)
Fred A Levy Haskell: Rune 44fredcritter on January 31st, 2008 03:26 am (UTC)
Response, part 1

Of course “duck”!!! Say the secret word and a duck comes down…! Not to mention: “Hey Darnold, duck!”

Yeah, one could complain about that meme (in the true sense of the word “meme,” I might point out), but—as they say—who’d listen? What good would it do? When you come right down to it, I don’t think it’s entirely the memers’ fault—nor even that of the iPod—as it seems to me that the entire culture has once again moved away from thinking of music in terms of longer pieces for which the term “song” is not at all appropriate and away even from the notion of an “album” which is a coherent work to be considered sequentially and its entirety. Although perhaps this goes in cycles. After all, with the invention of sound recording, music became … hm … something that could be brought home and “owned” by pretty much anyone, something that could be enjoyed in private and at home rather than requiring gathering in a public or semi-public place to hear it performed (or to perform it one’s self), and the “unit of delivery” of early recordings was not just “songs,” it was songs limited to two and a half minutes or so. I’m quite sure the technical innovation of sound recording changed considerably the way people thought about music.

Then of course, in the fullness of time, record companies got the idea of issuing sets of related sound recording with their paper sleeves bound together in a sort of “album,” much like a photo album. Finally, the 60’s arrived and, with it, the “concept album.” And the masses started thinking of albums as something more than just an aggregation of songs.

But then came DJ’s and sampling and “mix tapes” and, finally, the internet and downloadable music, and once again things splintered into smaller and, let’s face it it’s “the masses” we’re talking about here, more accessible units.

Of course, all along popular music has been “product”—like so much sausage to be sliced up and portioned out in small, easily snacked-upon and digested bits. Radio. Singles that played at 45rpm.

So iPods (and iTunes) are just music-delivery systems geared to the current popular notion(s) of what music is and how people want to acquire, store, and listen to it. Which is, you know, mostly “songs.” Fiddle-de-whoop.

However, having said all this, admittedly there is more to music than repetition “songs.” After all, among those 22,561 “songs” in my iTunes library are slightly over a hundred symphonies written by Franz Joseph Haydn, nine symphonies written by Ludwig van Beethoven, and some number of symphonies written by such folks as Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Aaron Copland, and Antonín Dvořák (not to mention various other compositions by them and their friends Telemann, Vivaldi, Mysliveček, Bloch, Glass, Bach, Liszt, Rossi, Handel, et. al.), each of which I have joined into a single unit so if one comes up when I’m doing the “shuffle” thang I’ll hear it in its entirety. There’s also a considerable amount of music on there which was performed by the Grateful Dead which, while frequently comprised of “songs” and indexed into separately accessible “tracks” on CDs, I have also joined into complete musical units before transcribing them to my iTunes library in order to better match the original intent and performance.

Fred A Levy Haskell: Rune 44fredcritter on January 31st, 2008 03:26 am (UTC)
Response, part 2

I guess what I’m saying is that although the popular notion is that, as you say, music exists only in units of “songs,” you and I know better than that and need not be restricted by it in our thinking. Which doesn’t mean I won’t toy with a cute meme, as I thought this one was. [You’ll notice that in a number of cases I had to sort though some non-song units of audio before reaching a “song.” In fact, in the “shortest” category, I merely listed the first example of each “type” before moving on to the next—there were actually 20 tracks between the smallest track (the audiobook) and the first complete “song.”]

In fact, something I was meaning to add to my post but didn’t quite get around to is that in many respects this “meme” says more about the person or persons who devised it than it does about any individual responding to it.

Mumble. Anyway&hellip

Matthew B. Tepperasimovberlioz on January 31st, 2008 06:46 am (UTC)
Re: Response, part 2
Oh, of course, Fred -- just so's others will have the background, you and I have been friends for, what, a third of a century now? (I suppose I could say it's from the time we visited that strip club in St. Paul back in August 1974.) I've always been impressed with your very wide range of enjoyed musical genres, and if I have chosen to "specialize" in a subset of that (consisting of a few centuries' worth of largely Eurocentric music based around home, salon, church, concert, or theater), that makes neither of us the better or worse for the experience.

I recognize the reality, which is that the vending of music has moved from cylinders to sides to albums to files, and my regret is chiefly that the terminology now dominant, "song," is more restrictive than it need be. What would have been wrong with "track," for example?

But just because it is prevalent doesn't mean I have to like it, just as the fact that I don't like it isn't going to slow the juggernaut, I suppose. But Don Quixote I always have been and am and will be, and if at age 54 I can still hold on to the hope that someday some woman will return my love and marry me, I can also hope for something even less likely, can't I?

(And yes, I shine approval at your correct inclusion of hačeks, as well as references to "Mickey Rodent!" and the Flying Karamazov Brothers. As Spock said in "The Way to Eden," "We reach.")
doclnghairdoclnghair on January 30th, 2008 09:25 pm (UTC)
I must be a Philistine, i don't even HAVE an Ipod. I do have 90some gig of live show bit torrent downloads on my desktop hard drive though. Bet I even have quite a few you would like!
Fred A Levy Haskell: D'oh!fredcritter on January 31st, 2008 03:36 am (UTC)

Naw, not Philistine. Probably her brother, Frank…

Although I do have an iPod (once upon a time, in the Good Old Days, they let me listen to it at work and it helped the time pass rather nicely, as well as doing wonders for my concentration), you’ll notice that this particular meme actually said “Open up your iTunes…” not “iPod”. Although you can’t (I believe) have an iPod without iTunes, you can indeed have (and use and enjoy) iTunes without an iPod.

That being said, I don’t expect that everyone in the U.S. who enjoys listening to music has an iPod or some other MP3 music player, and it really doesn’t really surprise me that you don’t, even though I know you love music.

Anyway, you’re quite right—I probably would like many of your sound reproductions of live GD performances…

Edited at 2008-01-31 03:37 am (UTC)
Jeffgalacticvoyeur on January 31st, 2008 02:02 am (UTC)
Funny, I've completely ignored iTunes until... 2 days ago! Still don't have (or want) an iPod. But I started bringing my CDs to work to load onto my quad-processor G5 (with a mere 8 GB ram, dagnabbit) just to get a feel for the whole concept before I finally Try This At Home.

The home computer music thing is more oriented to rehashing my G4 Digital Audio into my basement office darkroom studio space so I can cable the M-Audio pci card to the tape-out jacks on the massive old Marantz receiver and start feeding albums, singles, and tapes into the hardrive. I need to get all my old band tapes digitized while they can still be played...

Um, what was that meme about again?
Fred A Levy Haskell: Schrödinger's Musicianfredcritter on January 31st, 2008 04:02 am (UTC)

Well, as I just said to our friend doclnghair above, I don't think of the iPod (or any Brand-X MP3 player) as something everybody who can possibly afford it must have, nor do I look at anyone funny for not being interested in owning one—not even Known music lovers and tech geeks. Heck, I, myself, am not particularly interested in owning an iPhone, for example. We none of us need every single cool techtoy available. But, yeah, I guess I'm a little surprised that you hadn't at least looked into the iTunes part of the equation; at least partly for music retention and retrieval functions you describe. I find it useful in that way.

I got a tech tip from Macworld by the way—if you can afford the disk space, the hippest thing is to maintain two libraries: one into which you copy your music using the Apple Lossless audio format and the other into which you transfer the music once you've created compressed versions (in whichever format you prefer and at the amount of compression you're most comfortable with). There's even your choice between a couple of inexpensive shareware tools available to help manage the libraries. This has at least two advantages over other methodologies. One is that transferring music from CD to Apple Lossless format takes a lot less time than doing the compression while transferring (I think I get about 9x speeds, whereas CD to ACC maxes out at about 2.3x) so the babysitting part where you're tied up tending things goes rather quickly (at least when you're copying from CD; obviously, transferring from other source material has to be done at real-time 1:1 rates) and then the conversion of large batches of music can be left to the computer to handle at some other time—like when you're asleep. Another advantage is that if the compressed version gets scragged, you don't have to find the source and redo all that labor-intensive loading to the computer part.

Meme? What meme? Did you see a meme?

kip_wkip_w on January 31st, 2008 04:23 am (UTC)
Not big on memes, but I'll oblige:

total 'songs': 10256
total time: 29.8 days, 41.83 GB (the rest of the 60 GB is taken up with photos, movies, text, and about a meg of stored text I can only get to if I use the iPod as a drive)
most recently played: Ravel 'Le Gibet' [Abbey Simon]
most played: Wieniawski 'Romance fr Violin Concerto' [Mosley (organ), Tristan (violin)] 43 times
most recently added: Vivaldi/Bach/Feinberg 'Concerto in a minor' mvt 1 [Samuel Feinberg]
first by title: A-Lai, Ba-Lang-Mu [Beijing Angelic Choir]
last by title: Zoom and Bored (1957) from 'Carl Stalling Project'
shortest: Kangaroo-SFX from 'Carl Stalling Project' [0:04]
longest: Dinner at Eight from 'The Campbell Playhouse' [59:57]
first album: Aaron Copland Piano Music [Benjamin Pasternak]
last album: Yummy Yummy [The Wiggles] -- only this one cut
first one to come up in shuffle: A-Lai, Ba-Lang-Mu again.
second one to come up in shuffle: Ketelbey 'In a Chinese Temple Garden' [Jenny Lin, piano]
Death - 11
Life - 23
Love - 289
Hate - 5
You - 378
Sex - 39
(same caveats in searching)

I actually have a reasonable quantity of pop stuff that didn't show up here. I just feel obliged to mention it.